I feel like we should be talking about colonoscopies .
That's kind of our wheelhouse .
That was , uh by the way .
Yes , I always wondered because when they put you out , you were on your back .
I , I was on my , I , I was on my back side .
It wasn't till your film Uncut Gems .
That's a plug .
And when I realized they just must like push us over while we , oh man , I'm terrified knowing that , that because I was , I was awake during that shot but having to pretend to be asleep and that , that was a , a real doctor in there and he was talking and he was touching and I wish I was out and poking , poking , cutting and hey , you gotta suffer .
They say it's in the script .
I do it now .
Uh I know it was convincing because you looked at , you had this kind of .
No , no , I know .
I know that's hard to pull up .
I was in a weird position .
Yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah , I can't compromise .
I was compromising .
I know , man .
It's funny .
I , my uh I got shoulder surgery .
I play basketball with the guy who did my shoulder surgery .
And he looks at me now like he knows something .
I'm like to me , man , what did you do to them ?
But , uh , um , the , uh , once upon a time in Hollywood , Tarantino , he's good .
He's , he , he's pretty good .
He should keep going .
He should make at least one more .
I think he should make more .
Exactly .
But then he's got to pull the plug to me .
He's got one more enemy and that's it .
He , he sure .
Now , now you get that .
I know I've seen Quentin .
He is , he goes hard core at perfection in the script .
So the script itself , you get that , you get your character , you have , you , you , what's the first thing you do when you know you're gonna do it ?
Well , this one , he , because the previous one , the script got burned .
And uh so this one , it was just one copy , his first copy and you had to go to his house and read it and , and I think Rick had the Rick Dalton character , had to get cast first before he was trying to find the pair before the cliff booth would happen .
So the first time I went , it was a nice clean crisp script and I got called back like , I don't know how many weeks later and it was all dog ear .
And so you got to read it pretty much first .
You , you , I don't know , I was somewhere I was , was pretty clean when I first got started out when I got the job .
It was pretty well used .
It was , it was pretty dirty and , and , and the dialogue itself is , it's , you , you , you Tarantino is different .
Tarantino me who's never done Shakespeare .
Um , but there is a , uh , you know , there is a , um , a specific rhythm , you know , they talk about the , and I , I found that with the Coen Brothers and I find that with Tarantino that there is a very particular , you know , music to it and where , you know , some jobs we do , we get to riff and that's great .
We make it natural and we put our real interesting bits in it , you know , and , and we , we , we make it our own but here I find it only just like it lets the air out of the tire and that stuff because , yeah , you feel it .
Yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah .
That's so fun .
It's one of the , it's one of the few scripts .
He's one of the few writers that I've read where you get it , you can hear it immediately .
It's so specific for sure .
Yes .
He's also like , you know , when you're out somewhere and you'd be like , I describe his writing this way when you're , um , and you have an embarrassing moment or you get ripped .
You don't , you know , you're not sharp on the comeback and you drive home , you think of the perfect come back .
Yes .
Yes .
Yes , he has that .
He has laid out for you , man .
Even that last , even that bagel thing at the end when you said you can make a bagel .
So funny .
That was so funny .
That was , that , was that your last line in the I try , I try , man .
You , that's him .
That's , that's a good one .
I think that uh been a little bit of the valley of , of living knowing a lot about L A and also the fact that he married an Israel , the girl , the bagel was on his mind when he was supposed to get .
Maybe that it was a connection .
I just liked it because it , it didn't , it just was so strong that he's like , let me be alone .
I , I I , that make you know , without making sense .
Yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah .
It's official old buddy who has been , what are you talking about ?
What did I gotta tell you ?
You told me the goddamn truth is what you told me .
Who , who , hey , I'm sorry about that man .
Uh Scene after scene was making me laugh .
It was to me , you know , it's not , it's not a full on comedy but my goodness , I saw Conan o'brien and I , I was at a hotel , I was just , was talking to him and he just got done seeing it and we talked about the movie and we were both going man .
That was so funny .
This was so funny .
It just is , it's , it's got the rhythm of a comedy .
Kinda what ?
Yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah .
I mean , well , thank you coming from you because you , well , thank you , you , you know that stuff , but it's a different kind of humor , isn't it ?
It's kind of , it's a subtle , it's a , it , it , it also makes you wanna be you , you and your Yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah .
Well , the Bruce Lee , uh , scene , man , you just laughing on the side and just getting , uh excited about a guy boasting and just being of all people .
Uh I've seen that those guys hang out before the stunt men sitting on the side talking and that you do always go .
Well , those guys are the coolest guys on the set .
They are , they are , we all know we all know that they're so much cooler than , than by the way .
I , I , I'm , I'm so happy they're there .
I rely on them for everything .
I'm , I'm the opposite of , I don't know about you , but I , I , I have no like pride in doing my , I'm like , I'll be taking a rest over there .
You do your thing .
I'll be rooting for you .
Run right over to him after the baby .
That was amazing .
You really made me look good there .
But I , I even look at those guys with my , if I'm trying to be funny if the stunt guys are laughing , I'm like , all right , the stunt guys thought it was good .
Everything was good .
Exactly .
But when you do comedies when you do , you know what I , what I've noticed about , you know , you usually have a group and you guys are used to riffing .
You guys will try another line and another line and then another take , you'll throw out another , you know , look for that .
You're always looking for a big out .
You should bring that same thing when you get to a drama or a serious thing .
Um , not really .
I let those guys , the brothers , I let them have total .
I , I would throw thoughts out there and , and I talked to him uh during the uh preproduction and stuff and then on the day they'll say try this , try that maybe don't be so upset there and see what happens there .
Well , you know , we did and not like uh with the Quentin , we , we , we , we , we did go off the script a little bit mostly script .
But then on occasion , you know , before , before action , I would go be uh back um in a different room about to enter a set and the guys would say uh hey , maybe say this when you go out to see what happens , you know , and then we went off that like that a few times that I got in there .
I , I , I just figured that would be amazing training because it takes a while to be able to get that loose where you can and in and in , in truth , I find I find the seats end up best if you're operating that same way , like you're , the lines don't have to be different , but your approach is different .
Your , your tone is different .
Um And I just , I just thought that would be , I was really impressed with you guys the way you do that and I thought that's , that's really , that's the way to approach a scene .
I see out there in the stadiums all booing you , you're 30 up , you're still going full tilt .
Let's see what Vegas , what is Vegas got you guys to take a look .
Let's see .
Are you serious ?
You gonna put this up right here ?
Look at this .
The Sixers are supposed to win the game tonight .
It's so funny because when you do a scene and you gotta cover a scene and do the master and blah , blah , blah and shoot and shoot and shoot .
There's nothing better than somebody coming up with a new line .
All of a sudden , it's like the freshest thing to you .
You say that new line , you're like , can you give me five more new lines because I , I think I'm getting stiff here with this other stuff , you know .
And , uh , that was , that was nice .
They , they , yeah , I worked with Adam mckay once he would do that , he would just be throwing out now .
Yes .
Yes , exactly .
That's how we , a lot of the comedians and the , and the comedy directors do it .
It's like you got a list of couple of comedy writers in the background going blah , blah , blah , blah , blah , handing it to the director .
Director screams out maybe try saying this , this this and then you either say that line or something close to it and it does create a but the point what I took note is I watch , I once saw Tony Hopkins , he , we were doing the , this was mid nineties or 97 or something and the scene wasn't working for him .
I mean , for me , it was , I thought it was great , but for me it wasn't working and he turned around , he turns it back to us all for about 30 seconds and turned back around and he did it .
He just came in , it was just a completely different tone or words were the same , but the tone was different and it was glorious .
And I've always made a point since then to like , keep trying to mess up the intention of the scene or Yes .
Yes .
Yes .
And that's what I drew from when I , whenever I see the comedy guys like riffing like that there , it's always fresh , fresh , fresh .
Yes .
And if you know , you're gonna get a few shots at it in your head , it , it frees up so much where you go .
I can't , I can't play with this stuff and come out with different directions and stuff when you're on the move and you're , and it's pressing Alright , we gotta get this shot and get out of there then you you do sort of make a decision like better better let me give my a take or or we gonna end up with something that uh not enough energy or whatever but it is , it is cool but well maybe it's different when I because when I get into a drama it's um don't necessarily know the answer again and again it's such a subtle , it's such a subtle , it's , it's about feeling what you feel , what , what , what you feel from the scene and what the other , it's you kind of search and destroy .
Yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah .
It's funny .
Um , we did a few scenes in , in uh Gems where when I'm at home working on it and I'm alone working on it .
It's one thing and then all of a sudden you were the other actor you meet eyes , you're like , oh , man , this is bringing like a whole other feeling up and uh it's either working or not , but it is different .
You never , that's , that's usually when I feel I did something right where I was there in the moment you're locking in with something when you surprise yourself .
Yes .
And you let yourself say , OK , well , that was real .
At least , I don't know if it made 100% sense for the scene , but I was there and I felt what I was .
Well , that's always my , my argument that if it's real for you , it's gonna read real because the camera man , the camera reads , reads that and I , I just wondered how , how you approach that with comedy .
Is it the same ?
Is it ?
Right .
Right .
I think so .
I think so .
I think you try to make it , make sense to the , uh , the story and your character and whatever you pick and , uh , um , the , the realer , the better .
But , uh , it's , it's , then there are guys who come at it where they step back from it being real and do , do something bananas and it's funnier than anything you could do .
So , but like , well , I would say , you know , I'll see , I see that in some of your other stuff .
Like they're really irreverent ones like Zohan and stuff .
But I , I equate that too to like Will Ferrell , you know , to do .
But it's still , there's truth in making fun of , you know , in the scene as that guy , as whoever person he's playing , you believe Will Ferrell is in that situation and being put up on or taken over or whatever he does .
He is incredible at that .
Well , what I love but you are too .
You guys are making fun of truthful situation .
He can get absurd .
He can get bananas , but there's truth in it .
Yes .
But all right back to Uncut Gems .
I'm a little obsessed with comedy right now .
That's why I'm , I'm banging on your door that way .
But , but this movie , first of all hats off , man , that was so good .
I'm so happy you liked it .
I , it's , I , I had such anxiety watching it .
I had , it looked like a ball to make .
It was the panic scenes .
There were some moments .
Yes .
Yes .
Sure .
But there were so many people in every scene .
It was everybody going nuts and it , it was alive most of the time it was alive .
It was noisy .
It was chaotic .
Everyone .
It was a lot of energy going , like , very kinetic .
Um , but , oh , my , watching it , my God .
I , I was so anxious , good guy .
You know , watching , watching someone , you know , the way they describe an airline disaster is like a series of bad mistakes .
Never , like one mistake .
And when you watch , like , just a man just keep making bad choices .
That's right .
It's so funny too because , you know , when you're shooting it's scene to scene .
It's , it's , it's , you , you , you in the morning you shoot one scene and you go , oh , that's where he makes that wrong decision .
Ok .
Let's concentrate on that .
But as a whole , when you watch a movie back .
Yeah .
Oh , yeah .
That does .
It does get out .
Oh , man , you feel terrible .
Like I can't get it together but doing it though .
Isn't there a certain perverse freedom ?
Yeah .
Oh , my God .
Yeah .
Isn't there , isn't there a sense of fun ?
This was probably the most free .
I could ever be in a , in a movie .
Just , just , uh , he , he made so many mistakes that , and was so unlikable at times and that he was never unlikable .
I , I , in my head he was , but I'm glad he , I'm glad he's never unlikable .
Yeah , that's good to know .
You , you , you , you , in fact , you worried for him and that's why it was so , like , that's great anxiety that's producing .
Yeah , that , that was shockingly cool to , to get to be that guy .
I think you are the most annoying person I have ever met .
I hate being with you .
I hate looking at you and if I had my way , I would never see you again .
It's because you're mad , you're mad and it makes sense .
You know , this is something that I , one of my favorite things you've ever done is punch , you know , punch , punch with P T A and but there's something in , in everything you do .
I mean we go way back .
Um but , but what I love about , you know , it's what I love most in people .
But what I'm trying to say is there is a , there's always a kindness that you , that you bring to all your characters .
There's a kindness of heart in the back of it .
It's why you care for , for you , for your man and uncut gem so much and you worry for him so much .
That's amazing because there are times I don't , I don't think , I don't think it's , I think I'm being strong .
I think I'm being , uh , in my head .
You are , but you're being strong .
Right ?
And you're being , uh , there's something , something , no matter what I do that it's a little , a little like something about me , slightly goofy at all times .
So it kind of makes you go , uh , I don't know , he's off a little bit so you're definitely off but I try not to be , but it turns out that it , it goes that way but there's a thing underneath , sorry , you were gonna say I wanna talk about you .
That's why we're not getting off .
But there is this , um , I don't know , I , it's something that's , that's unexplainable .
It's probably something you , you're not aware of .
Um , you know , uh , I mean , you , you know , you have a reputation for being very kind , very honorable , um , um , and honorable friends .
I don't think that's so known out in the , in the , the old universe .
Um , and I got great respect for that but it reads in the characters and that's why I love , like , uh , punch drunk , love so much because it , it's so embodied in , in that character .
He's so , oh , yeah , that guy having another thing and he's , he's wanting something too .
Yeah , I know that's , that he's trying , he's trying to and , well , I have that .
Ok .
But let me just , of course , can I just say watching you I , we're gonna talk about Hollywood now .
Uh once upon a time in Hollywood .
But you , you , your character to me .
So again , like you , you're saying about me ?
I thought your guy was so warm , so kind , so loved Leo's character was his brother sat and like was so made Leo feel proud of his performance as his character .
You know , I love that you were SAT and that , that , that was so funny when he said you wanna watch me uh the show and you're like , well , I could think of nothing else .
I'd rather do something , whatever , whatever the line was , this just was so genuinely loving .
Like that's my buddy , I'm gonna , he loves when I watch and tell him how he's doing a good job and that was the best .
That was a real friendship .
It reminded me of a lot of friendships that me and you have mutual friends and it reminded me of my feelings for , for the , the guys we hang out with .
They were just like , uh just he needs something , he needs a friend , he needs uh something dependable in his life .
He was so dependable for Leo , even , even when uh he had to say goodbye to you and when he got married and he was having a hard time saying goodbye .
Just the fact that you guys get back together so quick , you're with them , you're just with him all the time .
He's like , I cannot be with this guy .
He's my , he's my rock .
I know .
But don't you have those people who , uh , you know , I know you do friends of 30 years who , yes , yes .
It's in between .
It's the down time , isn't it ?
That , that can be torturous or joyful .
It's those people you rely on so much of those friendships out here .
It's , it's even , even when , uh , in one of the best scenes when the guy punctures your tire , there's like you , like , besides the fact that we're so excited to watch you possibly pummel this guy because we saw what you're capable with with the fight earlier in the movie , just like the fact that he damaged your buddy's car and you were like , hm , man , that's , you can't do that , man .
That's it .
Like it hurt you .
Like , besides it being a job for you , like that's , that's that , it means a lot to him .
That car .
That's , yeah , that was great .
It was nice playing a guy with uh who had kind of uh evolved past drama .
So there was never , you know , those like some of the scenes you had panic scenes and uncut Gems where you're in full panic breakdown mode , like you're scared for your life , like , like it could , all the walls could come tumbling down and you know , those mornings when you go in and you gotta put yourself in that position , it's an exhausting kind of day .
You know what you're up for you're up for a 15 round fight when they don't , when they're , they're only 12 rounds now .
And , and , and , uh , and the , like , it was almost , uh , a bit of a joy not to , you know , this was a guy who found his , you know , his piece .
He was like , I'll look for the best in people expect the worst , you know , surprise me .
And if not , we'll deal with it as it comes along .
And that was like this guy so much .
He's so confident and cool and just , and your , your days alone when you would drop Leo off at the set and be like , I got some errands to make and just those drives when you would see uh the , the , one of the young hippie girls hitchhiking and having a little I I contact session .
It was just so you were so happy for like , all right , he's getting to enjoy his day a little bit flirting , having fun .
Well , look red .
I'm coming in there with my own two eyes .
I'm gonna get a good look at George and this ain't stopping me .
So I was thinking too when I watched as , and I saw you had so many days where first of all the way it was shot was incredible .
But yeah , yeah , he's one of our best , my God man .
And just , just the , the timing of like the , the shield of the helmet , uh coming into where we actually see your face from it and your emotions were so powerful and I was thinking the same thing with you , like , you had so many days where you had to be in the trailer before going out and being , I don't know , here we go again .
This one's a rough moment to you didn't have any moments in that movie .
That was a very , very , that was a tough shoot .
Huh ?
Yeah , there was not , um , um , you know , it's interesting because you know what you're exploring but it , it does , it , it , it takes a toll .
I mean , not , I'm not in complaining but you just know what you're in for you .
You know what you're in for when you sign up for it and what it's gonna be and right , really grateful when you come out the other end .
But , yeah , those were , uh , yeah , those were , those , those kind of days where you got to be and you got to put yourself in that whatever is personal for you , whatever the upset is in the scene totally .
You have to , you know , you gotta be there .
I know .
I know .
I don't know how you get there .
What do you do ?
I , I , I hope is there that has happened , that has worked every time .
But , yeah , it's , but when I don't do it , it's in this , in Uncut Gems .
I've had movies where I had to break down before and , uh , and I get really nervous about those days if it's a couple of days or so .
I , I mean , I'm not kidding .
You leading up to it ?
I'll say , when is that , when are they shooting that scene ?
Is that counting down on the call sheet ?
Yeah , exactly .
That , it me up for the third week .
I know I'm approaching that and then once you do it and if you get there you're like , the rest is then you're like , no , it's , you still got next week .
Yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah .
I don't know , I don't know how to do the same negotiations .
I actually , um , I , I didn't do as much as I usually do or I put this pressure on myself .
I just said , I'm feeling like this guy .
I , I , I , I really did my back story .
I worked hard at this character and , and knowing the way he thinks and where he goes in my head , I , I felt kind of confident that I knew the guy .
So I was a little more confident than the usual on the days .
He had a really awful day where I had to break down or whatever .
I was just like , let me just go , let me just do it instead of doing that whole thing of worrying and worrying .
I just , I've just did my own uh way of getting there and I actually talked , I called my wife and I said , all right , today I'm there .
I gotta do this and she gave me some thoughts and blah , blah , blah .
And so I was good .
It was great .
I , I got it done , but that's funny .
I know .
Thanks , buddy .
I , I mean , I saw you , I saw those close ups .
I saw like that .
You always had this so much baggage going on in your head and every facial , facial expression , even when you weren't moving , even when it was such a still shot , it was very effective .
You , you were , I could just tell you a deep deep in something , the whole movie .
Yeah .
Yeah .
That was we uh you know , I talked to James before going in because it was such an insular and , and lonely kind of existence and in the abyss of , of space and where we're gonna end up .
I , I told him I asked him , you know , I see this is very , very , very still .
I'm gonna see how um how um still we can be and when it gets flat , you know , just pull me out .
Yeah .
That's , that's , yeah , because that loneliness was there .
You were lonely and you were in pain and you missed , you just , there was something that constantly going on .
It's , it's , it's like um uh I can't remember the particular scene but when you , oh when you look at that video of your dad the first time and see what he said .
Yeah , it's weird .
It was a weird move but I thought it , I thought it said something about specific it was universal .
That's I , I loved the was wonderful .
What can you tell us about the Lima project first manned expedition to the outer solar system , sir , some 29 years ago .
And the commander was , he was my father , sir .
It , it reminded me a lot when you found out something about your dad and it crushed you because you had a belief about one thing your whole life growing up .
And then all of a sudden you hit with something else .
It's when my father's funeral , when my father passed away and after the funeral and I love you .
You , you , you know , I love my dad a lot but we were tight and then , then you have people coming up to you and telling you their own stories about your dad and them and you just what happened .
It is a shocking feeling to know to get hit with stuff you didn't know about your father , like just stuff that you didn't want to know stuff that he did .
That was totally out of character .
It is a shocking , weird change .
But anyways um yeah .
Oh , Tommy Lee was great in the movie too .
Uh He's another one just like I didn't think some of the dialogue actually even worked in on paper .
I was talking to James .
James .
We gotta work this for him .
He comes in and just like , oh , he made me , I have more to learn .
You're right .
Tommy Lee whenever we work with these guys who are older than us and better than us .
You do walk away .
Going , oh , yeah , I guess we , you , you start panicking , ok .
The great , this great actors coming in , let's make sure his stuff is as good as it could be .
And then you're like , wait a minute they get there .
Like , I took the gig because I like , I like it .
I like what you , what I'm gonna get to do with this .
I know what I'm doing .
Don't worry about blacks .
Exactly .
It's cool , man .
Well , I mean , let's talk about like the , this , the cast in Uncut Gems was sublime .
Everyone was so specific and how much , you know what's often , you know , like we , we , we'll get credit for a performance but what's , what's rarely talked about is , is what we do as a collaborative sport and we rely so much on .
Yes , I just , and how it's shot and , and the , the music and the sound design and , and the score but , but our , our , you know , our partners were playing with and um it does , it , it really um in when everyone's firing the scene is so rich and so much more and I felt like you had a lot to bounce him off on because everyone was , that's , that's those guys uh uh the brothers , they take it so serious .
Every , every person in the , in the movie meant so much to them .
So they had legitimate people there , people who aren't actors , people who are really jewelers , people who , you know , the fedex guy in the movie who just drops off the rock .
To me , that's the 47th street guy .
Like he just , like , we love his look .
We can , we want him .
He , he'll play it more real than , you know , they just , they , they made that very easy for me to be , uh , uh , more alive in every scene because it , it all felt legitimate .
And then , yeah , and then the other parts , I mean , well , you blended right in Lake Stanfield .
That kid is incredible .
No , he's incredible .
He is deep and he goes all day long .
He goes all day long when we're , when we're not shooting , it's an hour set up .
I , I swear to God , I never saw him not working hard .
He was just on the side , either going over his stuff or just staying in character being on his own .
Coming back .
We would talk , we'd have real conversations and then I would feel like , all right , I better step back and , and get him back to his world .
He , he goes , he goes , he's a , a guy that I felt when we had toe to toe scenes a lot .
I felt like , oh , yeah , this is a whole other thing than I expected .
Yeah , he's , he's , he gives it up .
Yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah .
So we , me and , you know , each other from many years ago when we first started , we kind of like , started getting to do more and more uh of what we , we wanted to do .
Um , at the same time we both kinda , maybe , I think you were ahead of me but like in the same uh era of getting to do stuff that was important to us and we're still gonna do that .
I don't know how the hell that happened .
We snake .
This could be it though .
Maybe let's not get cock .
Exactly .
But yeah , I just , I feel like , um when we started , it was , I mean , I , I got out here at the end of the eighties .
When did you , when did you early nineties ?
I , I finished uh college 88 got here like 89 80 end of 88 .
And then it was still , you know , it was , it was , it was , it was big Blockbusters with Stallone and Schwarzenegger .
And then we went through the nineties , we independent cinema , right ?
Which certainly Tarantino was a part of , of , of its birthing and we went through that and then we , I don't know what we call the , what , what , I don't know what , how I would define that .
But then streaming services came on and it's been , uh you know , I after in , in early two thousands , you could see films , you know , it was getting harder and harder to make interesting material like you could see it heading towards the Blockbuster and this was mainly because as , you know , Prince and advertising was so God damn expensive you couldn't take those gambles on gutsy material .
So , or I say that I , I , I , I don't mean that there weren't gutsy films made but , but though they would usually more gambles .
Yeah .
Was you had to do it under 10 million or something ?
And then streaming service came along and blown it wide open again in a very interesting way .
I mean , I see more and more interesting stuff getting made .
You were one of the very first to go to Netflix for doing that .
Yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah , I can't believe you , you crossed the picket .
I sure , I sure did .
I didn't even know I was doing that .
I was very just , they were interested in working together and then , um , it just turned out I , they are so passionate , so many of these companies are , I mean , I'm just tight with Netflix .
I know those guys very well .
They just want to make great material and that's all they talk about .
They just , just , they love providing opportunities for so many different types of , uh , uh , of comedies .
Well , you know , I mean , it became , they were certainly the first to , to bust open the door and then it's become an arms race as far as material .
But you were one of the first to go that route film wise and I wasn't far behind , you know , looking at you .
But you were , I think you were the very first film .
Let me get this going for Brad and then I did it and look at you now .
Thank you .
Thank you .
Thank you .
Thank you , sir .
Thank you .
No , but it's interesting to see , you know , we , I listen , I'm all for , I guess my point is I'm all for change .
I mean , I'm , I'm not gonna fight it but go with it and see what it is .
Um , I see the positive more and more .
I see really insane material getting made so much amazing talent , so many people out there that were there all along and not getting the shot .
Right .
Exactly .
On the other hand , people , um , talk about lamenting the death of the cinematic experience is , is that gone ?
Because the home experience has gotten so good .
I don't see it being gone .
I like saying , I saw your movie in the theater .
I don't see it being gone .
It now .
It'll be fewer .
Yes .
Yes .
You're , you're exciting .
It's , it's very exciting when you're at a movie theater and when I saw it , it's , it's funny I saw your movie a week ago or five days ago .
Uh , once upon a time in Hollywood , Hollywood and I was in New England and I , and I looked up where's a plane and I had to drive an hour and 20 minutes because , you know , it's , it's out of some theater and it was so much fun going to the theater watching it on a big screen and of course , Tarantino wants you to see it on a big screen .
It looked and , oh , man was shot .
Nice , man .
Oh , man .
Just look cool as hell .
But that's the , that's exactly the question .
Does it have to be an event film for them to play now ?
Which it seems to be heading that way it needs , there needs to be some kind of event propulsion .
Yeah , that's where it's at right now .
And I bet it , I bet it goes back in , I bet , I bet it makes it come back into uh the , you know , movies you see on streaming a lot being on big screen .
I just think it's a moment .
I think it's a moment .
I don't think stuff goes away forever .
I just think this is where it's at right now .
And um like I said , sitting back and watching how great that movie looked at Tarantino's movie and just seeing you guys on a big screen was just a great experience , but I saw an astra at home on my screen and it felt more private .
I love being alone with it .
I love because I had the sound design .
I was digging the sound design .
I was digging the shots and the quiet , the stuff on the moon , that quiet feeling up there .
I was , it was just me alone and , and , and the uh screen and it , it , it kind of rocked me hard and I thought it , it would have rocked .
It got me better than it would have the .
Not hard , not hard rocked me .
Not hard .
That thing that is , that's a long time .
That doesn't happen anymore .
But I'm not gonna , I'm not gonna take a stab at the comedy .
I'm sorry , I , I was at home , I was alone .
It was dark and there was a pause .
You can't do that in the theater .
It had nothing to do with you anymore anyway , you could in the seventies , but you can't do that .
The times have changed .
No , I guess , I guess the only fear , not the fear .
Um The , the downside of uh the upside of films through streaming is a lot of them get more eyes on it , more people have the opportunity , more people actually see him .
Um The downside is there's so much material that they can become disposable right where we just see it click gone , you know , like a meal seems like uh stuff that is exciting to see though does get talked about a lot where you say , OK , I gotta check that out .
So , but I hear you really care .
Do you about other people saying making uh uh no , where , I mean , I just don't really , I mean , things are getting made and what I care about .
I do like the in and quality , quality , quality with a lot of care from the people are helping get it made .
I'm , again , I just , just Ted Cran man , does that guy care about uh movies more than anyone I've ever .
He , he really gets excited about films and gets excited about filmmakers and it's cool .
But what I love is we don't have to do much press that , that's kind of nice , isn't it ?
We don't have to get out there .
We're not fighting for us .
You know , we're not trying to put butts in seats as they , they tell us we need to do right .
You did put a few butts in the , in the Hollywood seat .
So I got that was again Tarantino .
You guys , my friend Leo , you know Hollywood 69 man .
Yeah .
Yeah , man .
What about , we didn't talk about 100% fresh because that came out this year too .
Come on .
It's a movie doesn't , no , we don't call this a special , a special .
We call this a variety show or something like that .
I don't know , but I , I , I love that .
You , you , me do stand up .
That was the , that was a fun night .
Uh , but it's wholly original that it's , I , I hope you keep doing that as well .
Yeah .
Yeah , me too .
It is .
It's funny .
I was saying , I was saying to you back before .
It's good .
Yeah .
Yeah .
Sorry , man .
Yeah .
Yeah .
Most of the time I am not , not , not , not , not , not every day though .
You're a reverend and you get down to Dirty Yes .
Yes , it's good .
You're a good hearted man too .
I know that .
But um I was gonna just ask you , this is again of an actor question .
Now , sometimes you sit , you've done a movie , it's coming out and , and then you , you have to think about , ok , life has to go on .
I have to do another movie or I have to do or I have to sit for a while or what , what do you do ?
What goes , do you have stuff that you've been working on a long time ?
Like , as how long were you working on that before you actually shot it and , and it , well , I mean , James Gray much longer .
I think he developed it working on it for like , five years .
We worked on it for a good , I think a good 10 months up to , you know , really honing the script until we got to shooting and then afterwards , you know , the , the post production was pretty long for us .
It was almost that year and a half , almost two years by the time we got it out .
Yeah .
The look of that movie almost .
Look at that movie , the cut of that movie .
It's , it's incredible and the sound and everything that was and the music .
I love the music also .
Yeah , that got me good too .
But I feel like we're , we , you know , it's easy when you're on a film .
You can , you can put everything else aside .
You say , hey , man , I'm on a film .
That's a good thing .
I can get my about it .
I , I , I , I feel like we're busier when we're , when we're not shooting something .
Oh , man , called upon .
I don't , I don't know , I don't talk about anything else except when I'm doing that movie .
I , I don't know what else is going on .
It was , it wasn't bad .
It was probably 37 days or something .
That's , it was kind of in New York .
Most of it live the , the uh most of it in the city and most of it and apartments and stuff .
And then there was the jewelry store itself .
That was a set , right ?
That was a cool set .
It was great .
That was nice , dude .
I put on a dinosaur mask and I got recognized in New York City .
I like , it's like , I don't know what it is like now , you know , especially when people grow up with you .
But , but I mean , you , you were deep in character , a character going , I still got recognized .
Yes .
Yes .
Yes .
No , it may be a little , a little more of a delay .
But uh like you were just saying fit , I , I was skiing one time , had the helmet on the , the uh Dickie up the goggles and I was like , this is gonna be a fun day .
No one's gonna literally just like 6 37 in the morning .
Hey , I was saying , I go .
How do you know ?
He goes that big nosey ?
No , I don't .
I think it's something in growing up .
We can , we can discuss it later .
I won't , won't waste it here .
But just our body types and just know , like , like , like when you see the big foot in the forest , you know , it's like , yeah , the body types are Brad's body and then my , my SSIs pops out .
People go .
There's a , huh ?
Well , I mean , you know , you , you , you started out like , uh , originating your own comedies .
I kind of got to tell your favorite , you know , the films I'll go to when I'm done with the day .
That , that's where I wanna , that's why I , you watch those over and over .
That's funny .
I just watched , uh , Will Ferrell Kevin Hart movie the other night and I was so calm watching it .
So happy .
This is , makes me laugh and I don't have to , I don't have to , I don't know why I'm so happy watching comedies .
But I was like that my entire , we all are , I think there's something , yeah , there's , they're playable where , uh , a heavy drama , you just , you need distance from .
You can't , yeah , you jump in , you gotta , you gotta adjust when you sit down and watch a heavy movie .
You gotta go .
Ok .
Am I gonna do , I wanna get myself into that right now .
And , uh , but it is a good feeling .
It is a good feeling to get lost in a movie .
Yeah , I , like I said , you're , you're here .
Uh uh the , the Lima project baby that really hurt me .
It hurt me .
I , I was heartbroken watching it .
And that's a good lengthy movie and I was just move , move by it .
By the way , I did uh Uncut Gems .
Darius shot seven shot seven K is a good guy .
He , he was shooting me and uh and he really , he couldn't help himself .
He kept saying your , your face , something about your face is better than brads and just shoot .
He just said I shoot better than you have better eyes or something .
No , no , no .
But yeah , he's a superstar .
That guy .
He , he , yeah , those boys were really funny because they were pushing , there's stuff on him too and he was , he and was very much like , no , no , no , that , that will never work .
You can't use that lens and they'd go and they were like , they're two young guys and they love so many movies and they know so much , you know , please just look at it , look at it .
I'm telling you , Tony's gonna be good , you're gonna like it and he'd be like , it's impossible .
I'll never , and then he put on this , you know , 200 lens or whatever and he'd be like I do like it .
I do .
Let's go , let's try this .
Uh Yeah , you feel them , you feel them breaking rules , they were breaking rules .
Yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah .
I never knew what they were shooting the whole shoot because they were , they were using such long lenses that I didn't know what the hell was being done .
The crew would be way off on you and you didn't know it , I thought , oh , man .
And then I started going , I can't walk through anything .
I got , like , really give every take my , because I don't know what the hell they're doing and there was no playback , you know , Tarantino has no playback , right ?
No , no , no , he's there .
Um uh What I , what I love is , you know , when we started cables everywhere and massive lights that would , you know , you'd be sweating all the time .
It's like , you know , and , and big ass cameras that were super loud and now it's like , it's like it's getting down to , we're almost , we'll just be sitting in our room and sit in the dark now and it's , it's a whole another thing .
It's amazing .
It is cool .
But starting out in , I mean , you could , you could , you can do dramas all day long if you want .
You've proven that with several films and especially this last one .
Uh you know , what was the , were you ever coming from comedy ?
Were you ever um reluctant to make that to make that switch or what would it take you to find your confidence in that ?
I think , I think ultimately it was just Paul Thomas Anderson writing me something .
I didn't know how to write that stuff for myself .
And I , and I , I , I , I went to N Y U , I studied acting at Strasburg and all that stuff .
I was never doing comedy monologues in school .
I always was doing Indian Wants the Bronx and stuff like that .
Really ?
Oh , yeah .
I mean , I didn't , I didn't know any comedy stuff that existed .
I did stand , I was doing stand up on my own but when I was in school , I was just doing serious stuff .
So I always knew I was kind of like I , I , I , I could , I , I , I felt comfortable doing that stuff .
How amazing was training , stand up , training for this thing because here's here .
OK ?
Let me , here's my take on it .
One that scares the shit out of me .
I mean , I'm , I'm , I'm too old to jump off that bridge .
It scares the shit out of me .
But you guys , you don't figure out what I understand like before you put a show together before it , before it makes it , you gotta go in front of a live audience and you gotta try stuff out .
I mean , you gotta fail , you gotta fail , you gotta fall flat until you find those gems at work and then start calling those gems .
You put them together in an order that makes you guys have a pretty tough too .
You , you don't even think about it anymore .
I don't even , that , that I , I got to the place where even , I mean , sometimes all of a sudden you get punched in the face so hard where you're going out to what happened there and , and , and you rocked in front of an audience and you're like , oh , you feel naked or whatever the hell happens .
But now , uh I , I even had this when I was 19 .
I would do , I would say something that didn't work .
I was just going , what's the , these guys didn't get it ?
They , they didn't understand what was good about that .
But uh I'll forgive , I never blame me .
You blame yourself though .
You are sure cop when you finally just go , what am I doing , man ?
That was a very stupid thing to do in front of decent human beings .
But anyways , but you , you uh Brad , I , you , you know your comedy , man , you do , you certainly be funny as he said , like , how funny was it in the acid trip when you had the gun up to the guy ?
What a funny ass side shot of you .
And when you said it's , I know it's , it's rex or , and it's something stupider than that .
So that was the funniest man .
He Quentin said right before we started shooting , by the way , the end is gonna be , you're on acid .
I said , great , great .
That was so funny that you bought , bought that thing that such a throwaway earlier in the movie and then you go , tonight's the night and you hit it and then now that's Tarantino .
But when you get to those with him , he's , he's , he's all for playing , like he'll be throwing out stuff and he'll , yeah , he'll be calling audibles .
He'll be , he'll be , he'll be Peyton Manning looking at , that's something else that was really the funniest scene .
I mean , that last 20 minutes or so was just full of hilarious .
The dog just , just there was not one corny move Tarantino made with like with , with just the action of it all .
It's just like boom , boom , boom , boom .
He gotta do one more .
But then I'm telling you that's it done .
I just , I don't want him to do .
He just gotta start hanging out more and enjoyed his life .
You were talking about N Y U your time at N Y U .
This is my favorite Adam Sandler story that , that I I heard from Bennet Miller .
Yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah .
And uh it was that you were , you were at N Y U and , and it was an acting coach I believe or acting professor .
OK .
And he said to you , he took , he said , oh I , I wanna take you out for beer .
Is this how he took you out for a beer ?
This way ?
This is what I'm told .
He took you out for a beer .
Uh You guys went to a bar and he , he kindly said to you .
Yes .
Think about something else .
Listen , you got a heart but you don't have it , you don't have it , choose another path .
And it , it , it was , it was like that he , he and he actually , he sent a letter .
This is just , there's a second part to the story that you reminded me of this .
This is why it's my favorite Adam Sandler story .
And I think it says a lot about you that you ran into him at the height .
You know , when you're getting the ultimate payday and you're with a bunch of friends and you run into him out at a bar and anyone would think that's the opportunity where you go , you know , you , you rub it in his face and reportedly what you did was you said hi and you introduced him to your friends and you said this is the only teacher to ever buy me a beer .
Uh , something like that .
That's right .
That's right .
Yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah , of course .
Of course .
I think it just , it , that's , that's , you know , I , I know and I think that's why you're , you're here after all these .
I love you .
You , you , you too , Brad .
There's nobody .
I mean , I , I , even when I would talk to you about , I just got done seeing your movie and I was just trying to tell you how much I loved them , which they both crushed me .
You didn't want to talk about that for one second .
You just think , you know what , you don't wanna sit in here doesn't feel like you get on to the next .
You know , we like to live our lives and Yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah .
But I gotta tell you when you tell me I did good in Uncut Gems .
That feels good .
I , I can sit in that a little bit .
I'm like , because I've , I've , what you've been doing over so many years and crushing for so long when you tell me I'm doing something good because it's not my , I , I'm so much more comfortable with the comedy and if you're saying I'm doing well on this stuff that does feel nice .
Crushed it right on .
Baby .