Hey , it is Darren from the system of down and your log on at guitar dot dot com .
I just always want to play the drums .
And so my parents said that they wouldn't buy me the drums because you can't turn them off .
So I had bought , they got me a guitar and I started playing the guitar and I started getting better at it .
So I said , OK , I'll stick to this and then I started realizing I could write songs and then that became like something that , you know , just made me stick to the guitar .
And I still love the drums though .
I mean , the drums are my favorite instrument .
I played very light drums .
Like , you know , it's like if I was playing for the Stones or something , I can keep a 44 beat .
But like , uh , I don't do any Neil pert type of stuff .
I , I mean , you know , so I'm not a drummer .
I have like a drummer's mind , you can say , but I'm not , I , I'm not physically a drummer but you have at times you play very percussive way .
Yeah , I'm a , I'm a better rhythm player but than I am a solo player by far , I think .
Yeah , like , uh , Maiden Records and , uh , anything metal back in those days except for a man or , um , I don't know , Aussie stuff , Randy Rhodes .
Um , just a whole bunch of different guitar players .
Too many to even mention .
And it's not just the guitar that influences me to go places , it's like different , you know , sometimes there's so many lead singers that , like Iggy pop , you know , is a big inspiration for me when it comes to just attitude and playing and doing it all with attitude and uh just different people .
There's too many to name , you know , who is your first big guitar here right now ?
Well , my first big band ever was Kiss .
So I , I guess I'd have to say Ace Fraley , you know , because he was in Kiss .
But then again , that's like saying , you know , back in those days I say Peter Chris , the greatest drummer on earth .
No offense to Peter Chris .
But hey , you know , John Bonham will whip his ass , you know .
So , uh , I don't know , I , I guess Ace Fraley was the first guitar player ever that I ever like , you know , knew the guitar hero .
I don't know , like Randy Rhodes , Eddie Van Halen , a lot of eighties guys because I , I basically grew up in the eighties , you know , as an eighties kid and metals really big back then .
So I remember I used , I used to play Iron Man like this really bad .
Someone said that's not how you hold the power glory .
Like someone just taught me how to , like someone told me , hey , put your finger down power .
Don't not point it , right .
That's just the key that I chose right now .
It was and B Iron Man and B that's just off , you know , sitting in your room for like 7 to 10 hours a day and playing and every day and I was like , I don't know , still sometimes .
So if I can get the chance I do II , I remember when I was like a teenager , I used to get home and play for hours , like seven or 8 , 10 hours a day and like , I'd realize damn time just flew by and like , I , I'd be like , damn , I gotta eat something , you know .
You know , I'll tell you , masturbation is great for the right arm .
I doodle around is do stuff like , I don't know , nothing in particular .
Just I feel like playing the guitar .
So let's play the guitar .
But yeah , do the round .
I don't know how this screw around .
It's really hard to say what I used to do .
Play Sabbath Riffs or something .
Try to figure out how to play South of Heaven , like , just by listening to it on the stereo or something .
I'd hear whoa there new Slayer record and then , like , try to play it , go through like , oh , do the riff of the first song we're gonna play or like , right .
I just make sure I'm warmed up to play the first song .
If I'm gonna start the first song , you know , or whatever , the first song , usually Sleepy or no , or pluck or something .
Anything like , uh , like Elvis Crespo , the guy who sings that guy is cool .
Uh , I like , uh , you know , a lot of different .
I like the , uh , Apex Twin .
He's a really cool electronic guy .
And , um , I don't know , there's a , there's a lot of cool DJ .
S like Frankie Bones and , uh DJ Shadow .
He's , he's really cool .
Um , Carl Cox , I , I've been listening to some of his C DS lately .
So , yeah , I do like some dance music DJ stuff because it's all , like , very drum orientated .
So , I'm , I'm , I'm really into the rhythm and vocals .
When it comes down to music , the guitar is pretty much the last thing I think about and I'm the guitar part of the band but I , I , as , as a composer or someone who writes music or , or whatever that when I'm in the frame of mind of doing that , I'm really not thinking of my part too much as much as I'm thinking about what else would be going on while I'm doing my part .
You know what I mean ?
And they'll think of then I'll do it , you know , I'll , I'll do my thing more , you know , So , basically , you know , I do a lot of writing for the band .
So I write some music here and I'll take it to the band and , you know , create a vibe .
I try to create the vibe with , you know , iii , I , like I said , I'm , I'm a drummer in my head .
So it's like when I'm playing these riffs , sometimes I have all these beats that are going into my head .
You know , it's like I might be playing a Tony Io , but I have like a break beat in the background and I'd be going to John and say , hey , try that , that'd be funny .
You know what I mean ?
It'd be fun .
It's like if you listen to our song on the tribute record , I mean , it's sort of like James Brown meets Salsa version of Snow Blind .
And uh that's , that's just like sort of what we like to do , you know , and expand it a little bit .
Like , still keep it heavy , keep it serious yet .
Have a light side to it .
I don't know .
It's hard to explain .
It's , it's , it's some people try to have us explain , you know , what , why does it work ?
You know , you have like uh a singer , he talks about some serious issues and then I'm a guitar player and I do some quacky stuff sometimes and like I say , I'm the dude that says sugar or whatever and like , how does that work ?
And we're like , I don't know , you guys are the ones that bought the records .
We don't , we don't know how it works .
We were just doing it , like , trying to explain , trying to expand , you know , ourselves to what we want to do , you know .
Well , I play solos but my solos would tend to be something closer to , like , not like what , um , you know , I just mentioned maybe Randy Rose and Eddie Van , but I probably wouldn't play like them .
I probably played closer to like someone like a Martin Knoff or a Jerry Garcia or a , or a Jimmy Page mixed , you know , Miss Carlos Santana David Gilmore .
When it comes to my soloing , I keep it simple .
I don't , I don't like the whole , you know , it's not that I don't like it .
I like listening to like stuff like in teen .
I love bucket head .
I think he's great .
Uh But uh i it's just not the path that I , I mean , I used to have friends that played like that and I never really , it's not the path that I take in my playing .
I , I just never was interested in going and doing that .
I'm more into songwriters and people who write songs and how you , there's a certain attitude you can bring out of the guitar that like , you don't really need to be playing 100 notes at a time .
And Carl Santana can probably tell you the same thing , you know , like he can take a note and take it forever and it'll make you feel something .
And when I play , I play more melodically and , uh , you know , I like to have melodic type of solos .
If I have a solo , like , not very many heavy guitar players been soloing these days and like , on our record you'll hear like , I don't know , three or four songs maybe that have guitar solos in them just because as a songwriter , I said , hey , you know , it , it fits , it's not like , you know , the eighties , like where every song had to have one .
But like , it doesn't mean , like now that we're in a different era that you can't have one .
You know what I mean ?
I think you can have guitar solos every now and then .
It just don't overdo it , you know , tastefully , I love playing Ice Man .
I really love them .
The , there's actually , uh , this is a baritone they just made for me .
It's an Iceman two .
So they're gonna start making these , they're quite different .
So you can see that used to be the old Ice Man and here it was a little bit so they haven't really made any of these in the market yet .
So I'm pretty much the first student that has it .
So I'm cool .
Does it sound any different ?
Yeah , because it's a baritone .
This is , uh , just the regular standard type of guitar .
This one is in between a guitar and a bass .
So this pretty much has like a lot more of like a basi type of sound .
You get more chunky and still have that quicker attack that have like a really low base because it's in between , you know , like I 60 on top and it's a 12 on bottom with the strings .
So the strings are a lot thicker than that .
I think it's a 56 on that and tens on the bottom .
You know , that , that's gonna give you a lot more attack .
This one is gonna give you a lot more chunk .
You know , if you wanna come off sounding like , you know what I mean ?
It's like if you want to come out with that bulk , then I would use this guitar if you want to come out with , uh , you know , say more tacky type of , you know , Diamond Herald Dane bag , sorry , Darrel type of stuff .
Uh , I don't know , I , I would use something more like that because the strings are thinner and it's just more tacky and you can play quicker on that .
So , on the next record , I just want to combine both on stage .
I've been using this lately because it just gives me a bit of both .
You know , it's probably gonna sound the same .
These are differences , you can tell only on record .
And I miss this is what I used .
I used to play on stage a lot .
I mean , we did Conan with this one , I can tell as a player and it's just more attacking , like , you'd be able to , something like that easier on this guitar .
Like , make it scream on that guitar .
It would be a lot harder to make it scream .
I , I don't want seven strings .
Uh , that's just , you know , it's like , if I like the bass , I like the play bass .
I've written some songs on the bass and that can give me a vibe of having like a Basie type of vibe yet .
Still being the guitar , I can hold the same guitar chords .
Um , you know , seven strings .
I've never played one before , but I don't see myself wanting to play one .
I , I don't , I don't , I don't know , it's not my thing .
I , I saw that was one way of getting a thicker sound in the lower tone without d tuning like drop .
We've dropped it already that we dropped down a seat .
So it's like without going any lower .
That was one way of like getting the guitar to be sounding more bulkier and more bigger without changing my , you know , scales or anything , you know , just staying six and it's not exactly normal .
It's a , it's a baritone that it's just , oh , that's , that's the only way that I thought that I can do that , you know , just get a bigger sound with , without changing my whole rig round or whatever , you know .
Um , well , you just answered my next question , which is about tunings if you use any other odd tunings .
Well , and the guitars are drop one step from this , like , it's just regular nothing .
This last drink , you can hold a power cord with one .
You want scattering it be deep .
So the whole guitar sort of like dropped down one step and then the string has dropped down too .
We can have like , you can do things that you can do with one finger .
Like going up here with riffs over here because you're still playing the riff with one thing .
You know what I mean ?
Like , yeah , like it would be a lot more difficult if you were trying to do fingers like this way .